When we got beat ugly. We would go through the game before the next practice. meybe from video if possible or on white board. And we would involve players into conversation. Beacause players too have some kind of idea what went wrong or what was good. Then we would leave it behind and focus to things ahead.

Kai

Drink heavily!!!

Try some Duff beer.... or rye.

Seriously, if the other team was better, that's life. But if your work ethic is / was poor, more battle and competition drills. Hold the kids accountable in practice... But I wouldn't bag skate them. Maybe a disguised bag skate in the form of continuous backcheck games and other physically demanding situations to 'remind' them - but it needs to have a purpose.

Learn from it and move on.

Some days you are the bug and other days you are the windshield!

What is your opinion, should the practice after the game reflect the game you had?

I really would like to have some other views on this. Because we followed our weekly plan quite to the letter.
our week looked like this: (this was U18 team)

Thursday: off-ice + on-ice (team play)
Friday: off- ice + on-ice (pre game team play)
Saturday: Game
Sunday: Game
Monday: off-ice (aerobic/recovery) + on-ice (skills / low tempo)
Tuesday: off-ice + on-ice (individual tactics/ sag etc)
Wednesday: no practice

We would do some adjustments depending on the games but the monday was always low tempo skills.
So any thoughts on monday sessions or how do you see the whole week program

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Kai

Kai, when I have a team that practices regularly as I had in college I follow this plan. The first 20-30 minutes in every practice focuses on role 1.
Monday, Game playing role 1, practice individual offensive skills and skating skills. Dryland after practice with activities like spin class on bikes or plyo's.
Tuesday: Game playing role 3, individual defensive skills. Checking techniques and situations up to 3-3.
Wed. Game playing role 2, team offensive skills. Breakouts, power play, cycling etc. Situations 4-3 to 6-5
Thurs. Game playing role 4. team defensive skills, dzone, pk, battling. Situations 3-4 to 5 on 6.
Game Fri. Sat.
Tom

Hi all,

Our weekly plan goes something like this (changes possible as usual but the general guide line is as):
Mon:
- Off-ice: strength (for example; 8-10 x 2 x 10 one-legged squats w/ 2.5kg weight)
- On-ice: skills (for example; skating, skating w/ puck, puck handling and etc.) + SAGs
Tue:
- Part of the team is at practice w/ club coaches, rest are resting or hopefully playing something outside (pihapeli?) :-)
Wed:
- Off-ice: speed (for example; spurts w/ decision, one-legged skips or jumps, plyometrics)
- On-ice: skills (for example; passing drills) + SAGs
Thu:
- Off-ice: agility or "movement frequency" (for example; agility ladder drills as specific to skating as possible w/ high foot speed)
- On-ice: game situations (for example; 1-1, 2-1, 1-2 and etc. since Thu is half-group only practice = repetitions)
Fri:
- Off-ice: mobility (for example; dynamic mobility w/ some "animal" movements, bear, crab and etc.)
- On-ice: high tempo drills and game (for example; 2-2 in small area like corner w/ keep-away or scoring, high speed passing drills and anything from 3-2 continuous to a 5-5 game)
Sat/Sun:
- Game(s)

Has worked in my opinion though Mon is sometimes a hard evening for the boys...

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Koutsi97,

What age group / skill level is this plan for? Curious to know before I can put it into context....

Sorry for the late answer. Games Sat and Sun, practices Mon, so no computer time for me. These are '97 born so is it U14 boys, we have about 30 skaters and 4 goalies divided to two playing teams but they practice together Mon, Wed and Fri. Except the boys who practice Tue with the club coaches, they have the Wed as resting day.

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Thanks Koutsi97!

Are these considered elite U14's? Or average / club level; or recreational level?

Understandable that Mondays are tougher with this schedule.

Good to see the weights aren't too heavy as they are still at the age where the PHV (Peak Height Velocity) - or growth spurt - for males - is just occurring.

One of the SISEC kids was tested last week (he tore some muscles off his hip) and the MRI results showed that even though he is 17 years old, he still has some growing to do... he is only 5'7" and 145 lbs. The Doctors couldn't tell him how much he will grow, but said the growth plates hadn't fused together yet. So he is happy he will grow; time will tell if this is a career-ending injury (for hockey.)

Some of Finnish hockey clubs use doctors to determine the junior players biological age before they start strenght training with bigger weights. (I wish we had this system too in our club)

Kai

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Some of Finnish hockey clubs use doctors to determine the junior players biological age before they start strenght training with bigger weights. (I wish we had this system too in our club)

Kai

In a perfect world, this service would be available to us at a reasonable fee and on a reasonable timeline! But it is not the norm here... one has to guesstimate!

I found it odd that this SISEC kid (at 17) still has growing to do! He is probably at the one end of the Bell Curve for growth / age. This is not the norm, but again, chronological age doesn't always line up with biological age... individual differences are just that - they vary from one to another!

The best thing to come out of this discussion is that more coaches become aware of when PHV occurs (stereotypically speaking); knows not to kill the kids with heavy weights during this delicate time; and is aware of individual differences.

Biological age vary +/- 4 years in one age group. That is makes coaching teenagers challenging. you need good planing fpr your oof-ace training so that everyone gets right and safe training.

Koutsi97,
Kerro Saastamoiselle terveisiä Kaitsulta (i guess he's still with FIHA. ) And take easy with them photos.

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That's some advanced work you guys are doing to ensure the health and safety of your players. I like it a lot. You'll have to bear with me on this one, as my players are 18 at the youngest and I haven't had any late bloomers as far as height is concerned. They all put on a good deal of mass in their time with me, but the majority of that seems to be genetics.

I recall my pediatrician showing me the chart he kept of my growth, and at age 17 I had plateaued at 5'8". It was then I realized I would never be a drop and block goalie, but that's a discussion for another time. Obviously being able to directly see if the growth plates have fused yet is the best determining measure of when a player can safely proceed with heavier weights, but in your experience, how much more accurate is that from the aforementioned chart my doctor kept? Is waiting for a flattened growth curve not accurate enough?

Bostonian,

I doubt you have this info, but if you did... it could be a good predictor of each players PHV. IE: if you have access to individual charts (ht and wt changes monthly) from each player over time (from when they started their growth spurt... perhaps around 13-14 YO, to the current date; remembering individual differences), and the ht / wt of the parents, you could start making educated guesses as to where they are at regarding growth. Obviously, this is still inexact when compared to the advanced methods discussed above, but would provide a better ballpark than "guessing" alone!

I would imagine that all things being equal, starting on heavier weights at 18 YO (chronological) would be fairly safe. (I am not a Dr. in real life; nor do I play one on TV! ) Check the Canadian Sport For Life (LTAD) site for more info based on guidelines for the appropriate training age for your 18-20 YO's - "Training to Compete."

http://www.canadiansportforlife.ca/


Here is some more info for you from this site:


Developmental Age


The terms “growth” and “maturation” are often used together and sometimes synonymously. However, each refers to specific biological activities. Growth refers to observable step-by-step changes in quantity and measurable changes in body size such as height, weight, and fat percentage. Maturation refers to qualitative system changes, both structural and functional, in the body’s progress toward maturity such as the change of cartilage to bone in the skeleton.

Development refers to “the interrelationship between growth and maturation in relation to the passage of time. The concept of development also includes the social, emotional, intellectual, and motor realms of the child.”

Chronological age refers to the number of years and days elapsed since birth. Children of the same chronological age can differ by several years in their level of biological maturation.

Developmental age refers to the degree of physical, mental, cognitive, and emotional maturity. Physical developmental age can be determined by skeletal maturity or bone age after which mental, cognitive, and emotional maturity is incorporated.

Figure 4 Maturation in Girls and Boys (Adapted from "Growing Up" by J.M. Tanner Scientific American 1973)

LTAD requires the identification of early, average, and late maturers in order to help to design appropriate training and competition programs in relation to optimal trainability and readiness. The beginning of the growth spurt and the peak of the growth spurt are very significant in LTAD applications to training and competition design. Specific disabilities may dramatically change the timing and sequence of childhood and adolescent development.

Figure 5 Maturity Events in Girls (Modified after Ross et al.1977)

PHV in girls occurs at about 12 years of age. Usually the first physical sign of adolescence is breast budding, which occurs slightly after the onset of the growth spurt. Shortly thereafter, pubic hair begins to grow. Menarche, or the onset of menstruation, comes rather late in the growth spurt, occurring after PHV is achieved. The sequence of developmental events may normally occur 2 or even more years earlier or later than average.

Figure 6 Maturity Events in Boys (Modified after Ross et al.1977)

PHV in boys is more intense than in girls and on average occurs about 2 years later. Growth of the testes, pubic hair, and penis are related to the maturation process. Peak Strength Velocity (PSV) comes a year or so after PHV. Thus, there is pronounced late gain in strength characteristics of the male athlete. As with girls, the developmental sequence for male athletes may occur 2 or more years earlier or later than average. Early maturing boys may have as much as a 4-year physiological advantage over their late-maturing peers. Eventually, the late maturers will catch up when they experience their growth spurt.

Currently, most athletic training and competition programs are based on chronological age. However, athletes of the same age between ages 10 and 16 can be 4 to 5 years apart developmentally. Thus, chronological age is a poor guide to segregate adolescents for competitions.

Training age refers to the age where athletes begin planned, regular, serious involvement in training. The tempo of a child’s growth has significant implications for athletic training because children who mature at an early age have a major advantage during the Training to Train stage compared to average or late maturers. However, after all athletes have gone through their growth spurt, it is often later maturers who have greater potential to become top athletes provided they experience quality coaching throughout that period.



Train to Compete
Ages 16-23+/- in Males & 15-21 +/- in Females


Depending on the sport, for females ages 15-21+/- and males ages 16-23+/-, this is where things get “serious.” They can either choose to specialize in one sport and pursue a competitive stream, or they can continue participating at a recreational level and thereby enter the Active for Life stage. In the competitive stream, high volume and high intensity training begins to occur year-round.

To-Do List

* Provide year-round, high intensity, individual event, and position-specific training.
* Teach athletes, who are now proficient at performing basic and sport specific skills, to perform those skills under a variety of competitive conditions during training.
* Place special emphasis on optimum preparation by ‘modelling’ high competitions in training.
* Individually tailor to a greater degree fitness programs, recovery programs, psychological preparation, and technical development. Emphasize individual preparation that addresses each athlete’s individual strengths and weaknesses.
* Select 1 sport.
* Utilize single, double, and triple periodization as the optimal framework of preparation.
* Change the training-to-competition and competition-specific training ratio to 40:60. Devote 40 per cent of available time to the development of technical and tactical skills and improving fitness and 60 per cent of training to competition and competition-specific training.

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Koutsi97,
Kerro Saastamoiselle terveisiä Kaitsulta (i guess he's still with FIHA. ) And take easy with them photos.

Kerrotaan kerrotaan, Napeahan näkee jopa hallilla silloin tällöin, poika taitaa pelata 99':seissä. And yes, we will try to keep the photo session in the limits of good taste ;-)...

Not sure I understood what was said... say hi to someone?... bit I did understand the bit about the photos!

Looking forward to a new beer avatar from you!